what the blue bloody hell is this? how on earth is that supposed be standard police practice?
Honestly if you havent seen this show/episode you won’t undertstand that child was something else smdh
It doesn’t matter how bloody ridiculous the child is. as the POLICE, you do not instigate a situation in which the child attacks you so you can then charge her for assaulting an officer or whatever else! That’s abuse of power. They have, or should have, training on how to deal with people who are being assholes. What has she taught the child, really? That the police are abusive fucks? Well yeah, they are. Have always been. And … what then?
Then how was the officer supposed to handle it? With a gentle “Ma’am, please don’t do that, that is attempted assault of an officer”? Yeah, cops can be brutal, no doubt, but this girl shouldn’t have gotten ramped up and swung. I could understand the fury if the girl was being complacent and cooperative, even if she was a little moody, then I’d say, “Hey, that’s unnecessary force, she wasn’t even a threat.” This girl in the .gif was being a threat, simple as that. If she didn’t want to get taken down the way she was, she shouldn’t have instigated the fight, simple as that. No one is going to care about her age, background, gender, whatever when she pulls the first punch. And fights, even when one side is getting neutralized, are not neat and clean like they are in the movies. It’s gonna be messy. That’s now and forever, fights aren’t clean and cute. The girl had to be a neutralized threat and that’s what happened.
I’m afraid I can’t agree. Professional security, let alone the police, are trained in deescalation techniques. The officer had a choice to escalate or deescalate, and the officer chose to escalate. The officer has the training, the officer has the power, the officer instigated by saying, “Hit me if you want to” knowing exactly what was going to happen next.
That’s straight-up instigation and entrapment on the part of the officer, who is doing pretty much the opposite (in terms of space management, body language, etc) of what is helpful to descalate a potentially violent situation.
But I’m not even going to talk about that, because it’s already been said.
What I want to talk about is how absurdly, uneccesarily brutal and UNSAFE that takedown was. That officer has superior size and body mass on that kid; in the event that this really was an unsalvagable situation and the child was an immediate threat to self/others who needed to be physically restrained, throwing the kid into a steel bench is fucking unacceptable - that’s asking for some pretty horrific bruising at best, and a spine injury or broken bones at worst. If that child had to be restrained, the correct thing to do would have been to deflect the first punch, then use established momentum to spin her around and put her into a supine or prone position on that nice flat floor there. That would be a safe, minimally-violent restraint for safety.
But that’s not what happened here, and I can tell you exactly why. You, in fact, already identified it:
“fights, even when one side is getting neutralized, are not neat and clean like they are in the movies. It’s gonna be messy. That’s now and forever, fights aren’t clean and cute”
This isn’t the professional conduct of a person addressing someone in acute crisis, trying to deescalate the situation and maintain the safety of all involved parties, resorting to physical restraint only when absolutely necessary. This is a FIGHT. This is an adult figure with significant authority starting a fight with a kid.
The following may stray into Appeal to Authority, so feel free to ignore it: I work at a group home for kids who’ve been removed from their homes (usually due to abuse or neglect; these are kids with trauma histories) who can’t be cycled right into foster care because of violent behaviors that make them unsafe to themselves or unsafe to be in the general community. I used to work with the kids 6-12, and now I work with the kids 12-18.
Years I’ve worked in this field: six
Number of punches thrown at me: countless
Number of physical restraints I’ve performed: THREE.
Three physical restraints, in six years of work, across a population of over a hundred children of assorted ages. Because it is that easy to deescalate a situation - even one where punches are already being thrown - without resorting to physical takedowns, if you have very basic training in how to do so.
Words I’ve never said to a kid in crisis: “hit me if you want to”
This is not appropriate conduct. This is brutality.
And to answer your question here:
“Then how was the officer supposed to handle it?”
At the beginning of this video, when the kid is angrily running in place? Take a step back, stand in a neutral pose (hands at sides, feet shoulder-width apart, as little tension in the body as you can manage) keep a neutral expression on your face, and WAIT. Don’t say anything, don’t do anything, just wait. The kid will get tired of running in place and burn through their immediate panic energy/anger. They will reach physical and mental fatigue WAY before you do. Maintain your calm and composure, because you are a fucking adult with coping skills and can manage your stress in this situation. A kid often -can’t- because they don’t HAVE the coping skills you have.
And if you can’t, because you don’t have the coping skills? You have no fucking business being in a position of authority.
De-escalating a potentially violent situation is supposed to be your primary goal.
I work with special needs children, and am pretty used to being attacked. I have worked with people between the ages of 6 and 77, all with diminished mental capacity who are prone to outbursts. I have dealt with more violent outbursts in that time than most people in my field, because I tend to have success with the ‘difficult’ cases.
The police officer here didn’t do any of the things she should have done to de-escalate the situation, which is bad enough. But what really strikes me here is the fact that she didn’t make an attempt to retreat, defend, or restrain the girl. Instead, she attacked. That wasn’t the reaction of an adult who expects to be attacked by a smaller, younger person. That’s the reaction of a bully.
When I was working with teenagers, I weighed between 98 and 104 pounds, was (and remain) only five feet, two inches tall. And in that time I have been able to successfully restrain someone who was almost a foot taller than me and who outweighed me by fifty or more pounds. At no point did I EVER have to go on the attack to do so.
Fact is, the police officer should have deflected the first hit, grabbed her wrist on the second, and put her into a simple straight-arm hold to transfer her to a secure location where she could calm down. With the quick response of the second officer, that violent takedown should never have happened.
Forcing that girl backwards, onto a metal bench/into a wall on an awkward angle could easily have resulted in a head or spinal injury. She should have been pulled forward and dropped to the floor if necessary, but the whole scene here is extremely badly mismanaged and shows extremely poor judgement. That is NOT how you handle a violent person once the situation can no longer be de-escalated.
Thor deleted scene
I was moving past my crush on you, Thor.
WHAT. WHAT WHAT. OH god, OH THOR. OH, THorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
*flails like a flailing thing*
Did anyone notice this?
Natasha Romanoff: [all arguing in the lab] Are you all really that naive? S.H.I.E.L.D monitors potential threats.
Bruce Banner: Captain America is on potential threat watch list?
Tony Stark: [to rogers] You’re on that list? Are you above or below angry bees?
Steve Rogers: I swear to God, Stark, one more crack…
Tony Stark: Threatening! I feel threatened!
FINALLY I FIND OUT WHAT THEY SAID
I AM SO GLAD I KNOW NOW.